I began this page after an email
from Dale Symons - I've just come across your webpage with
the history of the Bint family. My wife`s great uncle by her
previous marriage was a Henry Bint who perished in the first
world war. His father was named Charles who may be the
Charles Bint born1853 on your webpage. Here's a link which
you may find interesting.
I then remembered a
marriage certificate I ordered back in 1992 when
researching a different branch of the family. It showed
the 1891 Wallingford, Berkshire wedding of 24 year old
Charles Thomas Bint, to 24 year old Charlotte Black, who
was from a travelling family.
Charlotte was born at
Choulston, Wiltshire, and christened 23 September 1866
at Farnham in Surrey. Her father was Walter Willis Black
(1842-1918), a gypsy traveller from Inkpen in Berkshire,
a village situated south of Marlborough, 3.5 miles
southeast of Hungerford, and once part of the old
Charles Thomas Bint, born 1867
in Stratford, Essex, and who died in 1944 at Warminster,
Wiltshire, was the son of brickmaker Henry Bint born at
Savernake Park, Wiltshire, in 1815, who married
Celestine Hayden (1827-1897) at Marlborough in 1849.
She was born on 6th July 1828, the daughter of
farmworker Thomas Hayden (1801), and his wife Caroline
(1796), who lived at the Hampshire village of Goodworth
Clatford, near Andover.
Henry & Celestine had seven children. John Bint 1850, William Bint
1853, Ann Bint 1855, Frances Bint 1858, Eliza Bint
1860, Charles Thomas Bint 1867, and Albert Bint 1870.
Henry, who was listed as an
inmate of Marlborough workhouse in 1881, died during
March 1888, at the age of 72. His wife, Celestine, died at Marlborough in 1897.
Henry (1815-1888) was the son
of Joseph Bint (1777-1848), whose father, farm labourer,
Thomas Bint bn 1739, was from Marlborough in Wiltshire.
Joseph, born in 1777 at Wooton Rivers,Wiltshire, and
Elizabeth Maynard (1781) were married in 1801 and had
Thomas Bint. His West Ham birth
certificate records the birthplace as 31 Forest Street,
Forest Gate, Stratford, Essex (now E7 district of Outer
London) on 24th May 1867 and his father Henry's occupation
as journeyman brickmaker.
Charles, who was mainly employed as a
labourer, but described as a 'brickmaker' on his son
Walter's marriage certificate, and his wife, Charlotte Black, had 16 children of
whom only eight survived. They were officially married under
English law at Wallingford in June 1891 but had been united under Gypsy
tradition since 1884 according to their declaration, of 26
years married, on the 1911 census. Before their marriage, and
at the time of the census on 5th April 1891, the couple were
lodging with two of their children, Eliza (5) and Ellen (4)
at a lodging house in St. John's Road, Wallingford,
Berkshire. That was the address they gave as their home on
their June 6th marriage certificate. Charles recorded his
occupation as 'general labourer'.
Walter, the eldest, born
at Pewsey, Wiltshire in 1886, was
one Charlotte’s three children from before her official marriage to Charles. After
him came Ellen 1887, and Edith 1889. William Henry 1893, Sydney
1895, Albert 1900, Emily
1903 and Ivy Carolina 1909. Because of the family's nomadic
life-style, the children were born in four different
counties, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Berkshire, and Somerset.
In 1901 the family were among the
gypsies and travellers camping on Yateley Common in
Hampshire. By 1909, and the birth of Ivy Carolina, they had
settled down and were living at Mermaid Cottages,
Bushton Lane, Clyffe Pypard, which is situated about 7 miles
south-west of Swindon and, on its north, adjoins the parish
of Wootton Bassett. The family are believed to have remained
there until the death of Charles in 1944.
All four brothers, and Ellen's husband, Samson Rickman, served in World War One.
From the informative
Wooton Bassett Great War site we have the following
William (Henry) Bint was born in
Inkpen, Berkshire on October 13th 1893. He joined the 2nd Battalion of the Wiltshire
Regiment in Devizes some time between March 1911 and Febryary 1912.
He was later promoted to Lance Corporal. He was not listed
with his family in April 1911 and may have been in Gibraltar
with the Regiment.
The 2nd Wilts were recalled to England on the 30th August and
went out to Belgium on 7th October 1914. They suffered huge
losses at Reutel on October 24th with more than 870 of their
1100 men killed, wounded or captured. This was probably
where Henry was wounded, although the date is not known. He
may have been taken to a field hospital first, but
eventually he was hospitalised at Kortrijk, in German
occupied Belgium. IRC Prisoner of War records confirm that
he died at Kortrijk military hospital on Jan 2 1915, age 21.
Henry was eventually listed as missing, and on Jan 7 1915
his name was listed in the Birmingham Daily Post. No more
was heard until his name was released by the German
government in May 1915. He was buried at Kortrijk (St Jan)
Communal Cemetery. He was initially buried with two Germans,
Fischer and Sutter, in graves 329, 330 and 331, with a
shared headstone. The three bodies were later reinterred.
Henry’s grave is within the cemetery, unmarked, but
remembered on Special Memorial number 27 which reads: “Their
Glory Shall not be Blotted Out”.
From the Wootton Bassett World War One website.
Hi, my name is Anne and I am dipping in and out of
Today I have been researching my mothers side of the
family and in doing so I came across your article A Bint
Family History. I had already travelled back to 1880,
but lots of gaps and social history have been filled in.
My grandmother was Emily Richenda Bint, the sister of
William Henry, and it would appear that Mary Jane Black was
my great, great, great grandmother.Thanks so much for all
this information. Anne
Albert Bint was
born in Bath, Somerset on 21st February 1900. During World
War 1 he served as a private in the Royal Marines Engineers.
On 20th November, 1920, at Wootton Bassett registry office, he married Wiltshire born Penella Charlotte Black
(1897-1974), the illegitimate daughter of horse-trader Henry
Black, who may have been Albert's mother's brother or uncle. Their first child, born in 1921, was named after his
lost soldier brother, William Henry (1921-1978). The other
two children were, Gilbert Bint (1925-1991) and Grace Bint
Sidney Bint was
born at Odiham, Hampshire, in 1896 and baptised in Bentley.
He married Gerty Smith in 1915 at Swindon and had three
children, Betsy, Edith and Sidney. During World War 1 he
served in the Royal Garrison Artillery.
sister, Ellen Bint, who was born in 1887,
married Samson Rickman (1890) from another
travelling family, at Fareham, Hampshire in 1912. Samson was
born in Hampshire in 1890. They had had their a first child,
who they named Samson, in 1911. Samson and Ellen appear to
have settled in the Fareham area of Hampshire, as little
Samson died there in 1914 at only two and a half years old.
Their second child, Charlotte, was born at Poole, Dorset in
September 1913 Samson & Ellen Rickman and their daughter
Charlotte Ellen from Portsmouth, were among travellers
hop-picking at Binstead, near Alton in Hampshire.
Binstead hop-pickers on
daughter,Jane Rickman, was
registered at Wareham, Dorset in 1916, and christened at a
church near the Rickman family home in Sarisbury, Hampshire
in March that year. It is believed that Ellen returned to
her family in Clyffe Pypard when her husband joined up with
the 3rd Hampshire Regiment during World War 1. He was
fortunate in not being sent to France and served his time in
the UK. The Hampshire 3rd (Reserve) Battalion was based at
Winchester in August 1914 . A depot/training unit, it
remained in UK throughout the war. The unit moved on
mobilisation to Parkhurst (Isle of Wight) and in January
1915 to Gosport for duty with Portsmouth Garrison.
children were born to the Rickmans at Fareham in the 1920s,
Rose in 1921, and Charles in 1924.
Travelling patterns were determined
by opportunities for seasonal employment, opportunities to
sell goods and services, attendance at fairs, and the
gathering of raw materials to manufacture goods. For these
reasons, Gypsy baptisms can be found at
Bentley/Binsted/Froyle (hop picking), the Titchfield area
(strawberry picking), Longparish (source of osiers and reeds
for basket making), Weyhill (Weyhill Fair), and Overton &
Whitchurch (Overton Fair). Alan
Sidney Bint and his brother in law,
Samson Rickman, over-stayed their army leave in
1917. On May 2nd 1917 a special Police Court was held in
Wootton Bassett to try two men apprehended by Bushton
policeman PC Wheeler and Wootton Bassett's Police Sergeant
Hillier. The policemen had discovered the two men in their
beds, secreted in a house in Bushton, and it appeared from
their pasty complexions that they had been in hiding for
quite some time.
were Gunner Bint of the Royal Garrison Artillery and Private
Samson Rickman of the 3rd Hampshire Regiment. The men were
brought before Mr Bond charged with being deserters. They
had been absent from the Regiment for less than three
months. The men were remanded to await an escort and PC
Wheeler was awarded 5 shillings for each man.
Rickman was additionally charged with, 'losing by neglect,
his clothing and regimental necessaries'.
Bint was cleared of desertion, and is believed to have been
convicted of the lesser charge of being absent without
leave. He was still serving in 1918.
Samson was also cleared of
desertion and convicted of being absent without leave, and
for the loss of his kit. He had no previous convictions and
had already completed 258 days service. He was punished with
42 days confinement but his entitlement to the Victory
Medal, and the British War Medal remained.
Photo on right
believed to be of Samson Rickman and his wife Ellen Bint.
Walter Edward Bint,
who was Charlotte & Charles's son from before their official
marriage, was born at Pewsey, Wiltshire in 1886. He was
registered at birth as Walter Edward Black but the 1901
census records that he was then staying with his maternal
grandparents and had adopted his father's surname, Bint.
At the time of the 1911 census, Walter Bint was living with
his wife, 21 year old Morselly, in a caravan on Lydiard
Plain, near Wootton Bassett, one of six families of gypsies
camped there. The census form shows the couple married for
two years, but as there does not appear to be an official
wedding recorded, it is probable that the union was
performed in the gypsy tradition. We have no record of what
happened to Morselly...
Walter, whose employment was listed as labourer, declared himself a bachelor when he married 30
year old war widow, Alice Maud Poole, at Gorse Hill Parish Church,
Swindon, in April 1917. They had four children. Lilian M
Bint (1918), William Henry Bint (1919–1976), Vera Frances
Bint ( 1922), and Walter Leonard Bint (1926-1926).
His name is on the Clyffe Pypard Roll of Honour as Walter
Black, and that is how he was recorded on WW1 medal rolls as
serving with the Wiltshire Regiment and Royal Army
Veterinary Corps. It appears to be the name he enlisted
under. It is difficult to understand his reason, being
recorded on all earlier census forms as Walter Bint. A check
of birth records failed to find any other Walter Bint or
Black born in the area during the 1880s.
Another puzzle is that when he married Alice Poole in April
1917, at a time when one would expect him still to be a
serving soldier, he gave his occupation as 'labourer'.
Alice Maud Poole, formerly Titcomb, was the widow of Oxfordshire
born soldier, Cpl William John Poole, who served with the
Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. The couple
were married at Swindon in early 1914, but William was
killed at Givenchy in September 1915. Their only child,
Alice Poole, was born in late 1914.
Following Walter's death in January 1928 at 58 Florence Street,
Swindon, probate records show that his effects, valued at
£68 6s 7d, were left to his wife, Alice Maud Bint.
Thanks to Teresa Bailey for that 1911 census and probate
Our gratitude to Sheridan Parsons for her diligent WW1
research and for allowing us to copy the newspaper photo of the
Bint brothers. Her book Wootton
Bassett in the Great War is available from Amazon. It
can also be down-loaded to Kindle.
Hello, I have just been reading your excellent family
tree. I am Kevin Bint the son of the late William Henry,RIP.
Like many other people I left it too late to check my
history but you have provided lost information.
All of my fathers sisters have passed: Alice Poole
married Dennis Bourne and moved to Chippenham, she died
Lillian married George Boland, she stayed in Swindon
and passed away about 2012.
Vera married Bill Watkins, stayed in Swindon also
passing away in 1999 about two weeks before my mother
Brigid, nee Hayes who came from Co.Clare.
I had one sibling, Patrick William who ended up in
Fairford and you might have guessed by the theme of this
post that he died in 2010.
My dad often spoke of spending school holidays with
some of his family at Clevedon and Bushton.
I myself am retired and live in Swindon not far from
Florence Street, I am married to Ann Maria also an Irish and
have three grown up children.
Best wishes, Kevin.
The Black Family of Inkpen
Blacks were a traveling family; in fact, on census records
and christening entries they are listed as “travellors” and
in some cases, “tramps” depending on the opinion of the
owned at least two cottages in Inkpen at one point and were
well thought of. They were from “the people known as
Gypsies” and were horse traders and hawkers selling their
wares wherever they went. We have record of their families
traveling as far south as Beaulieu, Hampshire; as far east
as Farnham, Surrey; as far west as Pewsey, Wiltshire; and as
far north as Chievely, Berkshire.
Charlotte Bint's father, Walter
Willis Black, was born 21 June 1842 at Kintbury, Berkshire,
the seventh child of Amos
Black and Mary Jane White. He and his wife, Eliza
Hughes, were married 1 October 1877 at Bentley, Hampshire
and to them were born 8 children that we have found.
George, born at Basingstoke, Hampshire and christened 22
November 1863 in Inkpen; Joan born 1864; Charlotte born at
Choulston, Wiltshire and christened 23 September 1866 at
Farnham; Richard Walter born Bentley Green, Hampshire, and
christened 12 July 1871 at Inkpen; Henry L. born at Moriston
and christened 14 September 1873 at Farnham; Trainette born
3 July 1873 at Durrington and christened 14 September 1873
at Farnham; Leonard born 29 Dec 1876 at Burbage; Alice Ellen
born 9 November 1877 at Moonlane, Berkshire and christened
23 November 1877 at Hungerford, Berkshire; and Edward
christened 13 April 1880 at Great Bedwin, Wiltshire.
1881 census the family of eight children and mother and
father were living at Durrington, Wiltshire and listed as
‘travelling Hawkers’. Walter died the 16 May 1918 in Inkpen
where he had lived with his family and was buried there in
the Inkpen churchyard the 20 May.
Walter's father, Amos Black, was
born around 1804 at Boxford, Berkshire, and died March 18,
1875 at Inkpen. He married Jane (Mary Jane) White, the
daughter of Thomas & Mary White. She was born around 1808 at
Bewley, Hampshire, and died November 10, 1900 in Inkpen,
Amos and Mary were living together as husband and wife
under Gypsy law. Their second child, Clemontina Black, was
christened 21 November in Boxford, Berkshire. On the 18 May
1840, Amos Black and Jane White were married under English
law at Linkenholt, Hampshire.
Their children were - Amos Black
1830-1925, Clemontina Black, 1831-1875, Jamima Black 1832,
Alice Black 1837-1911, Mary Ann Black 1840, Walter Willis
Black 1842-1918, Henry Black 1844-1903, John Black 1846,
Rosanna Black (Spackman) 1848-1935, died Preston,
Franklin, Idaho, U.S.A, Matthew Black 1849-1858, Thomas
Black, 1850-1857, Arabella Black, 1854, Rhoda Black 1856,
and Maurice Black 1858-1940.
Jack Black (real name is Maurice)
related that when he was younger he became very ill and
nearly died, while he was in bed this woman whom he had
never seen before came to him in a vision, he said that she
was wearing a black bonnet, which was something that he
would never forget, he made a full recovery, a few years
later he was looking though some old photographs, when he
came across one of an old lady in a bonnet, when he asked
his father who she was, he was told that it was Jane Black,
apparently he is not the only one who has seen her when they
have been at death's door, and all the others that have seen
her have made a full recovery too.
He also remembers a story that has
been passed down though the ages, A Major somebody (I have
forgotten his name but will try to find out later) who owned
Savernake forest, used to come and collect Jane Black and
bring her back to his estate to tell peoples fortunes, she
also use to be able to sex unborn donkeys, and on this
particular day he wanted her to tell him the sex of his
donkey's unborn baby. She said that the donkey was
having twins and that when they were born there would be a
girl and a boy, the Major did not believe her and said that
every one knows that donkeys don't have twins, but sure
enough when the donkey gave birth there were twins and there
was one of each sex." Sarah
Barrass 15 October 2000
The Leicester Chronicle and Leicester Mercury,
Saturday, December 1, 1900.
TWO HUNDRED GRANDCHILDREN.
There has just died in the gipsy colony at
Inkpen-common, an isolated locality on the borders
of Berkshire and North Hampshire, at the foot of the
grand range of downs which divides the two counties,
a remarkable member of the gipsy community, named
Mary Jane Black, better known in that part of the
country as “Granny” Black.
She was born at Southampton, and had attained the
age of ninety years. Her maiden name was White, and,
singular to say, she married in early life a
fine-grown member of her own fraternity, named Amos
Black, who obtained a livelihood as a dealer in
horse-flesh and goods of various kinds, as is the
wont of gipsies, being actively assisted by his
wife, who up to quite recently was to be seen about
the neighbourhood of Newbury and Hungerford.
She had a family of 14 children, 10 of whom are
living - strong and healthy men and women. Her sons
and grandsons are mostly engaged in the
horse-dealing business, and attending country fairs
with swings, cocoanut stalls, and the like. Her
grandchildren number something like 200.
“Granny’s” husband predeceased her more than a
quarter of a century since, his age being 74 years.
The old lady’s funeral, which has taken place at
Inkpen, drew together a large and sorrowing
assemblage of her progeny.
|Death of a
nonagenarian. Inkpen December 1900 - Two hundred
On Wednesday, last week, was
laid to rest, near the entrance of the old
churchyard, one of the best known local characters
in the county of Berkshire. Popularly known as
Mary Jane Black has, for
considerably more than an ordinary lifetime,
travelled the neighbourhood far and wide with her
basket of small wares slung across her shoulder, and
her picturesque figure and insinuating style of
introducing the articles she had for sale, will long
be remembered by those who knew her.
Curiously enough her
maiden name was White, so that by the marriage
ceremony White was transformed into Black.
She was born at
Southampton, and at an early age married Amos Black,
from which union has sprung the considerable
community of Blacks now living on Inkpen Common.
After becoming the
mother of 14 children, ten of whom are now living,
she was left a widow in 1875, her husband dying of
paralysis at the age of 74. He had
then been an invalid for
twelve years, and during that time his brave wife
struggled on and succeeded in supporting him and the
three children then dependent on her.
Since then, up to quite
recently, she has followed her old occupation, and
it speaks well for the benefits to health of an
outdoor life that the old lady attained the age of
90 before she died.
Many a romantic yarn did
Granny indulge in, telling to susceptible housemaids
who loved to have their ears tickled with promises
of a charming married life for their future, and who
in return were induced to buy from the old woman's
While on her rounds
Granny might often have been seen puffing away at
her short clay pipe, for the old lady loved her "bit
of baccy" and was as voluble as Kingsley in sounding
the praises of what to her was a "lone woman's
She leaves a little army
of 200 grandchildren to the third generation, to
mourn their loss, some of whom have found a home
across the Atlantic.
A good number of her
descendants followed her to the grave, but her
eldest son much regrets that he was unable to
attend, on account of being laid up with a serious
attack of dropsy.
During the latter part
of "Granny's" life she has lived with her youngest
son Maurice who, together with his wife, has solaced
by tender care the old lady's declining days.
|Death of Mr. Amos Black
9 MAY 1925, (son of Amos Black & Mary White)
A well known horse dealer of Inkpen. Mr. Amos Black,
died on Friday at Odiham, where he had gone on a
visit to his daughter.
Amos, who had reached the
age of 86, had lived on Inkpen Common practically
all of his life. He was one of the best known men in
the district, particularly among those who had to do
with horses, either as owners, buyers, or sellers.
Amos knew all there was to be known about horses,
and did a large business as a dealer.
healthy in appearance, a character, whom Dickens
would have loved to portray. Keen at driving a
bargain, there was none who could get the better of
him in a deal.
He had a keen eye for the points
of a good horse, and could show the paces of one,
which he was desirous of selling. A man of distinct
type, ready in repartee, able to smoke a cigar with
keen enjoyment, or crack a whip or a joke with
anybody. Motor cars he never approved, because they
Amos Black was a patriarch of
a numerous community settled on Inkpen Common. The
funeral took place at Inkpen Church on Tuesday in
the grave in which his wife was interred only a few
The mourners were: Messrs Amos
Roberts, Nelson, Harry, and Maurice Black (sons),
Mrs. Stokes (North Wanborough); Mrs. Stokes (Odiham)
and Mrs. Buckland (daughters); Mrs. Nelson Black,
Mrs. Harry Black, and Mrs. Morris Black
(daughters-in-law); Mr. Maurice Black (brother);
Mrs. Arabella Black Hamblin (sister); Mr. Nelson and
Miss L Black (grandchildren); Messr's T. F. and H.
Black and T. Williams (Nephews); Misses S. and E.
Stokes, Mrs. Goddard and Mrs. Sheppard (Nieces); and
in addition a large number of friends and neighbors
The floral tributes were numerous,
and among them were those from Mr. and Mrs. H,
Leander and family, Mary and Dick Trainette and
family, Nelson and Sally, Henry and Cissie, Morris
and Lottie, Morris and Ann, his grandchildren, Alf
and Rhoda Goddard and Morris and Dorothy (nieces);
Mr. and Mrs. Goodhart; Mr. and Mrs. Bicknell; Mr.
and Mrs. Povey; Mrs. W H Taylor and family; Mr. and
Mrs. J. Bicknell; Mr. and Mrs. Sheppard; Mr. Pearce;
Miss Palmer; and W. May. Mrs. Loder and family. Mr.
and Mrs. Goddard (Mr. Loder was bedfast and could
not attend being an invalid for fifteen years (an
old friend of Amos Black.)